oh my god. i have to share this with you all.
ok i'm dumb. i thought when i came back to california that max would follow on his own pet plane, you know a plane for pets. don't laugh, but i just didn't know how things work. i decided to check into the details today because i was going to purchase my own ticket and HOLY SHIT max is going to be in the fucking cabin with me on the flight. it's something that continnental airlines does... i couldn't believe it.
www.continental.com/travel/p...cabin.asp
thing is... i am not taking a direct flight. it's stopping off in new jersey for a two hour break. i have to do this because everything is costing me so much money to send back and also i have to pay extra for max to be on board and also for the kennel... and a direct flight from london to lax is twice as expensive than me going from birmingham international airport (closer to me) then on to good ole john wayne. but i can't believe they are letting a CAT onto the plane. you know i'm going to be THE MOST HATED PERSON ON THAT FUCKING FLIGHT. and i don't give a fuck, i'm bringing my baby home with me.
but oh my god he's going to be miaowing like a bitch and probably peeing for good measure. does anyone have experience with pets and flights?? i only have to take him to his vet a week before i go and get a certificate of good health etc for him to come into the us. i was thinking about asking them for something to calm him down for the flight - but sedation might be risky, no...?
here is my plan. i'm going to bring a baby bag (hehe) for max with baby wipes for messes, his harness and leash (for quick excersise in the bathroom at the airport in new jersey and if he makes a mess in his kennel during the flight to keep him from killing me in the toliet) and maybe some food. but maybe i shouldn't feed him?? oh i'm stressed! advice guys??
max is gonna fucking be on the plane with me! ha ha!
ok i'm dumb. i thought when i came back to california that max would follow on his own pet plane, you know a plane for pets. don't laugh, but i just didn't know how things work. i decided to check into the details today because i was going to purchase my own ticket and HOLY SHIT max is going to be in the fucking cabin with me on the flight. it's something that continnental airlines does... i couldn't believe it.
www.continental.com/travel/p...cabin.asp
thing is... i am not taking a direct flight. it's stopping off in new jersey for a two hour break. i have to do this because everything is costing me so much money to send back and also i have to pay extra for max to be on board and also for the kennel... and a direct flight from london to lax is twice as expensive than me going from birmingham international airport (closer to me) then on to good ole john wayne. but i can't believe they are letting a CAT onto the plane. you know i'm going to be THE MOST HATED PERSON ON THAT FUCKING FLIGHT. and i don't give a fuck, i'm bringing my baby home with me.
but oh my god he's going to be miaowing like a bitch and probably peeing for good measure. does anyone have experience with pets and flights?? i only have to take him to his vet a week before i go and get a certificate of good health etc for him to come into the us. i was thinking about asking them for something to calm him down for the flight - but sedation might be risky, no...?
here is my plan. i'm going to bring a baby bag (hehe) for max with baby wipes for messes, his harness and leash (for quick excersise in the bathroom at the airport in new jersey and if he makes a mess in his kennel during the flight to keep him from killing me in the toliet) and maybe some food. but maybe i shouldn't feed him?? oh i'm stressed! advice guys??
max is gonna fucking be on the plane with me! ha ha!
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Tue, August 17, 2004 - 6:07 PMthat's great that he gets to come on the plane with you. one of my friends flew from fl to ca with her cat. she got some mild sedatives from the vet and few him small amounts of food and water. she said everything went really well, although your flight will be much longer i'm sure. i bet money that you could check some resource on the web about this stuff, there's gotta be something out there for you. have fun and fly safe! -
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Tue, August 17, 2004 - 6:43 PMHey Demi,
I flew from California to Massachusetts with Dave -- a good 3,000 miles. He was sedated with kitty valium and did really well under the seat. He just slept and was really mellow. The valium kept Dave's stress level very low. Otherwise it would have been torture for him.
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Tue, August 17, 2004 - 9:25 PMyeah, i've never had to do it, but i think sedation is the way to go. also, there should be a little food & water cup that attaches to the door on his carrier, freeze the water in the cup the night before, that way as it melts he'll have water. thats what my vet told me to do.
btw, i drove my cats from pasadena to marin county & back again. no picnic.....
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Wed, August 18, 2004 - 5:47 AMthanks kitty valium! that's pretty strong stuff, but that's great though... i'm making an appointment with the vet for his check up next week, so i'll get some diz-ope. the frozen water is a great idea... and i'll search for some tips.
cat, yes, i'm hoping to move to los angeles after i get myself a j-o-b. i haven't been home in well over a year and i'm excited to come back and see all my peoples. i can't wait to show off max either...
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Wed, August 18, 2004 - 9:45 AMCool, Demi! Look me up. We live in Silver Lake. (Eastern edge of Hollywood). -
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 12:48 AMhey Cat! we live in silver lake too...small world....
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Wed, August 18, 2004 - 9:53 AMYeah, baby! Max is flying! You goin' Delta? 'Cause at Delta, "we loves us some flyin', and it be shown like a motherfucker!"
<<Ya'll be goin on vacation? See the thing is... If you bout to be about this biatch, check it! Peep Delta! We be flyin all over this bitch.
Lemme ax you sumthin: You fend to raise up and get your travel on? From the interior to the exterior, you got to get your posterior in one of these big ass planes. Shit dawg, you layin the cut straight sittin on your ass and gettin yo drink on an yo snack on while we floss and fly this mofo all over this bitch.
East Coast, West Coast, it dont matter. Nigga well get you to your ho and back lickety split. No shit! Then you be back at yo crib chillin with a fat spliff, thinkin we was some crazy ass angel. Hell, this fat, round thick ass vessels run up in the sky so deep, it be cryin. Yea, you thought it was rain!
So bring a towel, cause at Delta, its laid out like that. Call one of these fly ass Delta coochies, and make all them punk ass coworkers of yours catch the vapors as you be off and about. You goin, we fly you there. You been? We done already flew up in there. We got you covered like a jimmy hat.
At Delta, we loves us some flyin, and it be showin like a motherfucker.>>
Anyway, seconding all that's been said about giving Max some kitty tranqs. Sedatives aren't good for the body, but then 12 hours of non-stop stress in a small carrier aren't either. -
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Wed, August 18, 2004 - 10:11 AMcat: will do totally. my car was stolen in silver lake two years ago- bastards! ha ha.
candy: word to the tranqs. and my sanity... the more i thought about it i think i'd probably slit my own throat in the bathroom or someone else would if max wasn't sedated...
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Wed, August 18, 2004 - 10:34 AMYou can also give him an antihistamine like Benadryl - I gave that to Tipper & Elvis when we moved and it kept them pretty calm.
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Wed, August 18, 2004 - 11:15 AMThose damn Americanarian cats won't understand Taco's Brummy accent (unless he picked up a twang from you of course Demi) Why I remember when I transplanted Stan from Newcastle to London, these poofy southern cats couldn't understand a word he said, used to take the piss until he learned cockernee rhyming slang! -
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Wed, August 18, 2004 - 11:53 AMsam if max talked like a brummie i would have gone insane by now ha ha...
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Wed, August 18, 2004 - 12:12 PMIt's my least favourite British accent I've got to say, very weird and makes the speaker sound like a dumbass even if they're not...no offense to any potential Brummie wabs natch...oops -
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Wed, August 18, 2004 - 5:12 PMsam, i totally agree to that. it's like nails on a chalkboard to me. i didn't realise it when i first got there because everyone at my university talks like they've got plums in their mouths... and then when i started 'mixing'... i was seeing this guy who is from sutton colfield and OH MY GOD i wanted to strangle him.
the fact that he was also a speed freak kind of aggrivated it.
oh yes and no offense to any peoples from brum here but you've gotta admit it's annoying.
hey, what's up with people from liverpool not talking like the beatles... i say that all the time but when i was first over here and watching brookside (i admit it i like sleaze) i would always say 'they don't sound like the beatles' ha ha
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 2:02 AMHeh heh, a lot of accents have changed since the sixties! I think to get on TV in the sixties you had to put on a more refined accent, so they were prolly speaking "posh scouse"! -
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 7:42 AMok well i'm pissed off. (not because the beatles had posh scouse accents ha ha)
the woman from conintental airlines told me so much bullshit the other day... they don't allow cats incabin on international flights he has to go through a shipping service. and it's going to cost a fuckload more than what she told me. how come people aren't fully informed who work for the fucking airline. so i've already bought my nonrefundable e-ticket to go home via newark because it was cheap... and now because i got that ticket i will probably have to pay more for max to switch planes too. can you believe the cheapest one way flight that i could find was $740 (£380)... and now with max that's going to be probably around $400 (£200) more or upwards. added on to the £200 ($400) i have to ship my things back via air frieght...it looks like this fucking trek home is my birthday present - ha ha!!
oh yeah it's my birthday on 2nd of september! woop! the way things are going i'm spending it at my moms watching comedy central staring at max. -
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 7:55 AMawww, you can spend it at our house watching comedy central & staring at ripley, raven, bear, & otter.....
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 8:07 AMawww kira that actually sounds really good... -
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 9:15 AMMan, that sucks! You're going to have to ship Max? Make sure the shipping compartment is insulated and all that and suitable for pets.
It's really sad when salespeople have no fucking clue what they're talking about. I think you should totally give 'em hell, tell them THEIR representative fucked up and you bought your ticket in good faith, and that it shouldn't be on you to hoof the extra cost. -
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 10:51 AMThing is I bought the ticket through a third party online booking agency... it would have cost me over $1000 to get it with continental... so i'm kinda screwed for choice... -
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 8:22 PMMy wab read an article in the Wall Street Journal about how Continental was the airline to fly if you're flying an animal. She doesn't remember the details but they had a pretty good review of how the airline treated the animals. -
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Fri, August 20, 2004 - 5:20 AMsweet, thanks for that... that puts my mind at rest a bit. but to be honest with you i just can't wait to get the whole stupid episode of travel over. i'm not afraid of flying i just am really impaitent with long trips... eeeerrghh!!
but thanks for the info about continental, they are the next best thing to virgin atlantic... infact i've been on continenetal flights that have mirrored as virgin ones when ive flown john wayne to birmingham international. most of the time virgin lax to london is the way to go. you can play super mario brothers and drink all you want. the food is excellent on virgin too bah bah -
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Fri, August 20, 2004 - 7:06 AMContinental is pretty good. My best friend flew with two cats from the Carribbean to Texas on Continental and had no trouble. And they have decent food. Way better than American Airlines (shuddering at the memory of the "chicken burrito" ...)
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Sat, August 21, 2004 - 2:23 PMMy wab took Virgin when she went from SFO to London. She loved the lil personal entertainment center and the goody bag they give you.
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Fri, August 20, 2004 - 7:20 AMTo us Texans any British accent sounds cool! The dumbass accent 'round these parts is the extreme drawl you hear from East Texas. Sounds even worse than George W. -
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Fri, August 20, 2004 - 7:24 AMoh come on it can't be that bad ;)
american airlines and northwest airlines are the worst. i've had horrible dealings with them in the past. and american DOES have shit food... god, it's horrible being a vegitarian on a plane anyway but they gave me like some bread and some cheese. mmmm! ha ha.
AND american had some way ghettofied stewardess. one of them looked like she was going to slap me when i asked where the headphone jack was... and they kept bumping me on the knee with their trolley when i was asleep and giving me a 'oh no you diddnt' look when i winced in pain. -
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Thu, August 26, 2004 - 8:04 AMAgain, I'm super-late in on this one because Peeps hogs the computer, but I wanted to add these.
My vet in Houston strongly recommended against sedation and Lupin and Peeps did fine (admittedly, the flight was only around 3 hours and domestic). Lupin played the diva and charmed everyone. She slept most of the time under my seat. I got her a sherpa bag and unzippered it at times so she could look out. The girl in the seat next to me was thrilled. With the travel to Houston Intercontinental, the check in and the wait, as well as the wait to be picked up in Pittsburgh, the babies were away from a litterbox for about 7 hours and there was only one tiny accident (Lupin pissed a little on the sherpa shearling blanket, which I had to toss out). Sherpa bags provide a water carrier so I did give her something to drink on the flight.
Peeps was in cargo as she was/is healthier so she got the bad end of it. She wasn't happy at the end and I wasn't pleased that they just stuck her in a corner near baggage reclaim (where anyone could have stolen her) rather than placing her in a room where I had to collect her. I'd check to see what Continental will do (I was on USAirways) for pick-up.
I gave her a t-shirt I'd slept in and some worn gym socks so she had my smell near her to calm her down. She had water but no food (my vet's recommendation). Again, no sedatives were recommended, so we went cold turkey. My vet said that she'd likely sleep, and I imagine she did.
After the flight, both were fine but it took them a while to eat, drink or even use their litterboxes. I've road-tripped with cats (Peeps, Lupin and Blue) and they've generally done the same thing. It is like their digestive systems just shut down until they are comfortable again. This means they're less likely to need the toilet than you might think.
I would still check to see what British Airways would do. I know they are pioneers in pet travel and they do allow them in the cabin (last time I checked). I have had *horrendous* problems with Virgin in the past--I would never fly them again nor would I trust them with a pet. When things go well with them, fine, but when they do not, they are the worst airline I've ever dealt with. They have terrible customer service.
Good luck and please keep us posted with how it all goes.
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